Thursday, January 16, 2014

Terms & Agreements

                                                                   Google
https://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/

One of the websites that we had assigned to our group was the Google website. It was really easy to locate Google’s “Terms of Services.” But reading them was an entirely different story. While they were very short and broken down into different sections regarding different things, it was rather hard to understand them. One of the main things that made it difficult to understand what they were talking about is that they never explained just what services they are referring to. It would have been much easier to understand what services/websites these terms covered if they had listed them all instead of referring to them only as “Our Services.”
Using the ethical theory of Utilitarinism, Google’s terms of services can be seen as unethical. One example is that the terms and services allow Google to display “your Profile name, Profile photo, and actions you take on Google or on third-party applications connected to your Google Account.” This can be seen as unethical because the benefit of displaying a person’s internet activity is outweighed by the cost to society’s right to privacy. Another way Google's terms of services may be seen as unethical is when they say "When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content." This means you are not only giving Google the rights to anything you post on the site, but anybody Google works with. This is unethical because they can take a picture you post and change or modify it and then publish it and publicly display it which can be seen as an invasion of privacy.

                                                                Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/legal/terms
The terms on Facebook were fairly simple to find. It was located on the homepage underneath where you would sign up for the social networking page. Reading the terms was also pretty easy as they had it broken up into sections and the wording was simple and easy enough to read and understand. At the bottom of the terms they also included a "Definitions" section which they used to defined terms some may not understand and to clarify the meaning.
Using Utilitarianism, the terms of Facebook would not be very ethical. In the second section of "Sharing Your Content and Information" it states "For content that is covered by intellectual property rights, like photos and videos (IP content), you specifically give us the following permission, subject to your privacy and application settings: you grant us a non-exclusive, transferable, sub-licensable, royalty-free, worldwide license to use any IP content that you post on or in connection with Facebook (IP License)." This is saying any picture or video you post, they have rights to use it. That can be considered an invasion of privacy and not very ethical. They also go on to say even after you delete it, they may keep back up copies. Another example would be Facebook saying they "appreciate your feedback or other suggestions about Facebook, but you understand that we may use them without any obligation to compensate you for them". This would be unethical according to the utilitarianism theory because one end  of the party is not being compensated for their work and/or ideas. That does not generate the greatest net utility for all parties involved because only Facebook would be gaining anything.


Both Google and Facebook have similar aspects in their Terms and Services. Both are well laid out and easily readable giving and understanding of terms and services of these sites. Facebook has a more in-depth description of there terms and services. Although, both share similar principles in stating their terms on things such as privacy, liability, copyright, terminating services, and use of your uploaded content. Both may review content to determine whether it is illegal or violates their policies, and they may remove or refuse to display content that they reasonably believe violates their policies or the law. Neither site will be responsible for lost profits, revenues, data, financial losses, or indirect, exemplary, or punitive damages. Neither site can guarantee that your information will be safe. They do what they can to insure the privacy and safety of your information. After submitting anything to either site, in their terms, it states that they therefore have rights to use your information, such as pictures, videos, or content, in manners they seem fit. Which I see as unethical, for if anyone else were to use your personal content it would be considered copyright infringement, but because you are uploading to their services it therefore makes it their content also. From the perspective of the user, both Google and Facebook have all the power when it comes to the terms and services. The user doesn't get to decide what Google and Facebook can and cannot see. The user also has no control over what is done with any of the information that is gathered about them.

17 comments:

  1. I agree that it is unethical for web sites such as Google and facebook to use people's information and to give that same information to a third party. A lot of web sites have that in their terms and conditions where it allows them to use your information and give it away or sell it. Good job on your blog.

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  2. I also found the google terms of service to be easy to find but hard to really understand, it felt like I was trying to put together a puzzle.

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  3. I completely agree that it is very unethical to tell a user they are giving up their rights to privacy by using the services offered. Both google and facebook do that and it really annoys me and makes me worry about what are these companies doing with everyones data? In this day and age it is way to easy for pictures to be copied, modified and reposted. I know someone that had a picture taken of her baptism in which she was in a one piece bathing suit. Someone took that picture from facebook modified it to make her naked and reposted it on a child porno site! The police found the site and notified her, she was 16 years old at the time. Thank God the police found that site and shut it down!

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    1. I agree that it is horrible that happened, and does happen! Makes me nervous to what I post as I have a child and like to share pictures and what be absolutely shocked and furious if anything like that happened to me.

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    2. This make me wonder how many of them post of facebook of kids that are missing are real I get about 5 to 10 in my new feed a day. Or is this someone sick way to play games.

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  4. I think it is unethical that a users information can be sold or given to a third party by a website that you sign up to use. Even though they list it in their terms, I still would like my information to be shared only with the company I sign up with.

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  5. Thanks for adding the part about changing your settings! I was not aware of that, so that's nice to know!

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  6. I found your blog post informative. I thought that Facebook's terms of use were easier to read. I think both websites are notorious for privacy related issues. That is why I think you have to watch out what you post on both websites, you just never know.

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  7. Good job Group 2 on presenting the Terms and Agreements for Facebook and Google.

    Had any of you looked at the Terms and Agreements before using either of these sites? Did reading the Terms and Agreements change how you feel about either of these sites?

    Also, can you think of how either Facebook or Google would defend themselves against your charges that they are violating the privacy of users? Do you think, for example, that they would argue that what they are doing isn't a violation because users can always "go somewhere else," or do you think that they would argue that they might need to share user data in order to provide their services for "free"?

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    1. prior to using both facebook and google, i did know of what was outlined in the TOS. but after reading them the first time i was a little more weary of using them for a bit.

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    2. I actually did not read the terms and services before using either sites, and now that I have it makes me question some of the things I have posted and will probably affect future things I post and share since I don't feel as though my privacy is secure.
      I do think they could defend themselves in different ways, such as your example of being able to "go somewhere else" and also they could say it is in the terms and services and by agreeing to it you are agreeing to share your information and if you don't agree you shouldn't click agree and join the site.

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    3. I think that's where the issue of perspective comes into play. From Google and Facebook's perspective, they're terms and services would be thought of as ethical. It all just depends on which side of the situation you are on. However, I do think that by saying a person could "go somewhere else" is a bit of a cop out. I have a program on my computer that allows me to see what/who is tracking me on various websites. Almost all sites I go to show that Google is tracking me in some way, even when I am not using Google. I would have to stop using most of the internet if I wanted to avoid agreeing to Google's terms of services.

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    4. Previously I had read Google's terms of service but since I almost never use Facebook I never bothered to read theirs. I believe that google would argue they need to share the data o provide services for free because as Angela said Google is everywhere on the internet so they often share your data to make doing things simpler such as providing customized advertisements. I believe Facebook though would say you can just go somewhere else because they do not have the same presence as Google on the internet so they do not need to protect themselves in that way.

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  8. Hey guys great job on your presenting of the Terms and Agreements for Google and Facebook. Both web site are big on privacy related issues. When it come today kids and Facebook, I think there should be a test of the terms and agreements that have to be taken before you can open a facebook page.I completely agree that it is very unethical to tell a user that by using the web site they are giving up their rights to privacy by using the services offered. This makes me wonder what are they up to with my information.

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  9. Could Google argue that you do not have to be signed into their "services" to use said services and as such are not violating the user's privacy as they have informed you that they share some of your information? I know that I do not have to be logged in to use services like YouTube, which prevents my activity on that site from being attached to my name.

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    1. I think you make a good point and they very well could argue that since you are informed of their terms and services, and by that I mean you click "I agree" whether you read them or not, they could argue they are not violating anyone's privacy because you consent to it. Although you are not signed in to their services and tracking you that way, they can still collect cookies and IP addresses which tracks your computer, not personally you, but anyone using the computer.

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    2. While they may not be able to attache your activity to your name by not signing into a service, they can still attach it to your IP address. In this way they can still track what your doing. If I'm not signed into a service, they can't argue that I'm agreeing to their terms of service.

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