Our group was assigned eBay v. Bidder's Edge, pages 222-224. Bidder's Edge uses a bot to search through auction sites such as eBay and then makes a list of the different items at different sites available to customers (Spinello p.223). eBay seen that as trespassing and sued Bidder's Edge to stop them from using their bots to search and trespass on their property (website). Bidder's Edge argued back that eBay is a publicly accessible website and had suffered minimal damage to the site. They also argued that there was users who benefited from the site. (Spinello p.223). The court ended up ruling with eBay and Bidder's Edge could no longer use spiders or bots to access eBay's information.
-Kayla Hero, Michael LaPan
1. Do you agree with the court's decision in this case? Is Bidder's Edge really guilty trespass? How strong a case has eBay presented regarding this claim?
I do not agree with the court's decision in this case. I think that Bidder's Edge didn't really do anything wrong. I don't think that the damages that eBay suffered were real damages to begin with. I do not think that eBay presented a strong case in this claim. I think that if eBay had shown that they had actual damages then they might have had a real case, but since they didn't I don't think that they should have won.
-Angela Goodro
Using utilitarianism, which is the greatest good over evil (Spinello p.11), I do not agree with the court's decision. There are many people who could have benefited from Bidder's Edge. Instead of having to go to multiple auction sites to find the selling price of one item, you could go to just one website and they did that work for you. I don't think eBay's website had that much damage done to it, that the damage done to eBay would outweigh the damage done by taking away the site from customers who were benefiting from it. It may have even been a good thing for eBay, showing that their site had the best prices. Bidder's edge may have even sent customers to eBay. Bidder's Edge only used publicly accessible information to their advantage. Bidder's Edge didn't really trespass since the information on eBay is available to anyone who visits the site. All Bidder's Edge did was really take the information and make it more easily available to its customers.
-Kayla Hero, Adam Magiera
I disagree with the rest of my group and believe that the court's decision was correct in this case. I will use Pluralism, which states that something is unethical when universalizing it as a maxim creates a contradiction (Spinello p.15). Bidders Edge asserted that no trespassing occurred because even though they had a robots exclusion header eBay's site was publicly accessible(Spinello p.223). This is the same as saying that because someone lets their anyone onto their property everyone is allowed to come into it. This can be universalized as "It is permissible for everyone to enter another's property if anyone is allowed to" This creates a logical contradiction as if everyone can enter another's property freely then the very concept of having private property becomes invalid making Bidder's Edge's actions amoral.
-James Hignite
2. Assume that you are a lawyer working pro bono on the appeal for Bidder's Edge. What arguments would you present on the company's behalf?
I think that I would present the argument that the damages to eBay were not substantial enough to warrant them winning the case. I would also argue that Bidder's Edge actually helped eBay by allowing customers to see that eBay had the best deals for what they were looking to purchase.
-Angela Goodro, Michael LaPan
-Kayla Hero, Michael LaPan
1. Do you agree with the court's decision in this case? Is Bidder's Edge really guilty trespass? How strong a case has eBay presented regarding this claim?
I do not agree with the court's decision in this case. I think that Bidder's Edge didn't really do anything wrong. I don't think that the damages that eBay suffered were real damages to begin with. I do not think that eBay presented a strong case in this claim. I think that if eBay had shown that they had actual damages then they might have had a real case, but since they didn't I don't think that they should have won.
-Angela Goodro
Using utilitarianism, which is the greatest good over evil (Spinello p.11), I do not agree with the court's decision. There are many people who could have benefited from Bidder's Edge. Instead of having to go to multiple auction sites to find the selling price of one item, you could go to just one website and they did that work for you. I don't think eBay's website had that much damage done to it, that the damage done to eBay would outweigh the damage done by taking away the site from customers who were benefiting from it. It may have even been a good thing for eBay, showing that their site had the best prices. Bidder's edge may have even sent customers to eBay. Bidder's Edge only used publicly accessible information to their advantage. Bidder's Edge didn't really trespass since the information on eBay is available to anyone who visits the site. All Bidder's Edge did was really take the information and make it more easily available to its customers.
-Kayla Hero, Adam Magiera
I disagree with the rest of my group and believe that the court's decision was correct in this case. I will use Pluralism, which states that something is unethical when universalizing it as a maxim creates a contradiction (Spinello p.15). Bidders Edge asserted that no trespassing occurred because even though they had a robots exclusion header eBay's site was publicly accessible(Spinello p.223). This is the same as saying that because someone lets their anyone onto their property everyone is allowed to come into it. This can be universalized as "It is permissible for everyone to enter another's property if anyone is allowed to" This creates a logical contradiction as if everyone can enter another's property freely then the very concept of having private property becomes invalid making Bidder's Edge's actions amoral.
-James Hignite
2. Assume that you are a lawyer working pro bono on the appeal for Bidder's Edge. What arguments would you present on the company's behalf?
I think that I would present the argument that the damages to eBay were not substantial enough to warrant them winning the case. I would also argue that Bidder's Edge actually helped eBay by allowing customers to see that eBay had the best deals for what they were looking to purchase.
-Angela Goodro, Michael LaPan